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Somewhere between Serial Numbers 34,000 and 40,000 Kaypro began preparing to add kickstands to their machines.  By about 50,000 they were regularly installing the kick stands on the machines. (I suspect that Kaypro changed to factory kickstands on the KII about the same time that they released the K4 and K10.
Somewhere between Serial Numbers 34,000 and 40,000 Kaypro began preparing to add kick stands to their machines.  By about 50,000 they were regularly installing the kick stands on the machines.  
 
A few Pre 81-003 KII machines had factory kick stands (or at least were designed to use them).  Most of the 81-003 KII machines would have a factory kick stand. All of the K2, K4, K10 and K1 machines had kick stands.
(I suspect that Kaypro changed to factory kick stands on the KII about the same time that they released the K4 and K10.)
   
   
==Examples==
==Examples==
Here are three examples of the feet/kickstand arrangement:
Here are three examples of the feet/kick stand arrangement:
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| No Kickstand <br>Note that the foot is towards <br>the front and outside ||  
| No kick stand <br>Note that the foot is towards <br>the front and outside ||  
[[File:36960 close.jpg | thumb]]
[[File:36960 close.jpg | thumb]]
|-
|-
| Transition to a Kickstand <br>Note the there are two screw holes <br>and they are moved back and in ||  
| Transition to a kick stand <br>Note the there are two screw holes <br>and they are moved back and in ||  
[[File:45618 close.jpg | thumb]]
[[File:45618 close.jpg | thumb]]
|-
|-
| With Kickstand <br> Uses the same holes as the transition ||  
| Kickstand <br> Uses the same holes as the transition ||  
[[File:102622 closeup.jpg | thumb]]
[[File:102622 closeup.jpg | thumb]]
|}
|}
   
   


Note that the Kick Stand, Model Number and Serial Number are all part of the same piece of sheet metal so you can't swap parts and end up with a mixed machine.
Note that the kick stand, Model Number and Serial Number are all part of the same piece of sheet metal so you can't swap parts and end up with a mixed machine.


==Pre-81-003==
==Pre-81-003==


You will see from the images below that the Pre-81-003 (I sometimes refer to them as 81-001 and 81-002) KII machines also seemed to have an option to add a kick stand though I am not aware of a factory kick stand being installed on them.
You will see from the images below that the later Pre-81-003 KII machines also seemed to have at least an option to add a kick stand (#34644 and #56111).


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| #26347 <br>No Kickstand ||  
| #26347 <br>No kick stand ||  
[[File:26347 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
[[File:26347 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #34126 <br>No Kickstand ||  
| #34126 <br>No kick stand ||  
[[File:34126 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
[[File:34126 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #34571 <br>No Kickstand ||  
| #34571 <br>No kick stand ||  
[[File:34571 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
[[File:34571 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #40448 <br>No Kickstand ||  
| #40448 <br>No kick stand ||  
[[File:40448 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
[[File:40448 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #51174 <br>No Kickstand <br> Note this is what I call a through back machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later it looks like it was constructed with an older style case.  Not only does it have no kickstand it also doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag next to the serial number.||  
| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later <br>it looks like it was constructed with an older style case.  <br>Not only does it have no kickstand it also <br>doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag <br>next to the serial number.||  
[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]
[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]
|-
|-
| '''#34644''' <br>'''Transition to Kick Stand''' ||  
| #61254 <br>No kick stand <br> See note above ||
[[File:61254.jpg]]
|-
| '''#34644''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' ||  
[[File:34644 bottom.jpg]]
[[File:34644 bottom.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #56111 <br>Kickstand ||  
| '''#42891''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' ||
[[File:42891.jpg]]
|-
| '''#44493''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' ||
[[File:44493.jpg]]
|-
| #56111 <br>kick stand ||  
[[File:56111 pre003 w kickstand bottom.jpg]]
[[File:56111 pre003 w kickstand bottom.jpg]]
|}
|}


==81-003==
==81-003==
In the 81-003 model there were a few early ones that did not have the holes for the factory kick stand. (#36960)
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
| #36960 <br>No Kickstand ||  
| #36960 <br>No kick stand ||  
[[File:36960 back.jpg]]
[[File:36960 back.jpg]]
|-
|-
| '''#45618'''  <br>'''Transition to Kick Stand''' ||  
| '''#45618'''  <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' ||  
[[File:45618 back.jpg]]
[[File:45618 back.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #58454 <br>Kickstand ||  
| #37467 <br>kick stand ||
[[File:37467 bottom.jpg|400px]]
|-
| #58454 <br>Kick stand ||  
[[File:58454 back.jpg]]
[[File:58454 back.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #61850 <br>Kickstand ||  
| #61850 <br>Kick stand ||  
[[File:61850 back.jpg]]
[[File:61850 back.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #62390 <br>Kickstand ||  
| #62390 <br>Kick stand ||  
[[File:62390.jpg]]
[[File:62390.jpg]]
|-
|-
| #82157 <br>Kickstand ||  
| #82157 <br>Kick stand ||  
[[File:82157 bottom.png]]
[[File:82157 bottom.png]]
|}
|}




==After Market Kickstands==
==After Market Kick Stands==


The one kickstand that looks like the factory kickstand if you don't look close is from ICP.  Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine.  It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kickstand.
===ICP Kick Stand===
The one kick stand that looks like the factory kick stand if you don't look close is from ICP.  Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine.  It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kick stand. The ad is from Kaypro Users Group Newsletter Vol 2 No 1.


[[File:ICP Kickstand Ad.jpg]]
[[File:ICP Kickstand Ad.jpg]]


[[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]
[[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]
===Optional Kick Stand 2===
This is the most common one I see in listings.  It usually connected without any modifications.
[[File:15106 moded.jpg]]
===Optional Kick Stand 3===
This Kick Stand requires new holes to be drilled into the case.
[[File:21563 moded.jpg]]
[[File:32579 moded.jpg]]
===Kick Stand from another Machine?===
This example shows what I believe to be a kick stand from a later Kaypro that has been added to this machine.<br>
Note the extra holes in front of and to the outside of kickstand mounts.
[[File:39864 moded.jpg]]

Latest revision as of 06:19, 24 June 2025

Somewhere between Serial Numbers 34,000 and 40,000 Kaypro began preparing to add kick stands to their machines. By about 50,000 they were regularly installing the kick stands on the machines.

A few Pre 81-003 KII machines had factory kick stands (or at least were designed to use them). Most of the 81-003 KII machines would have a factory kick stand. All of the K2, K4, K10 and K1 machines had kick stands.

(I suspect that Kaypro changed to factory kick stands on the KII about the same time that they released the K4 and K10.)

Examples

Here are three examples of the feet/kick stand arrangement:

No kick stand
Note that the foot is towards
the front and outside
Transition to a kick stand
Note the there are two screw holes
and they are moved back and in
Kickstand
Uses the same holes as the transition


Note that the kick stand, Model Number and Serial Number are all part of the same piece of sheet metal so you can't swap parts and end up with a mixed machine.

Pre-81-003

You will see from the images below that the later Pre-81-003 KII machines also seemed to have at least an option to add a kick stand (#34644 and #56111).

#26347
No kick stand

#34126
No kick stand

#34571
No kick stand

#40448
No kick stand

#51174
No kick stand
Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine.
Even though the serial number is later
it looks like it was constructed with an older style case.
Not only does it have no kickstand it also
doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag
next to the serial number.

#61254
No kick stand
See note above

#34644
Transition to kick stand

#42891
Transition to kick stand

#44493
Transition to kick stand

#56111
kick stand

81-003

In the 81-003 model there were a few early ones that did not have the holes for the factory kick stand. (#36960)

#36960
No kick stand

#45618
Transition to kick stand

#37467
kick stand

#58454
Kick stand

#61850
Kick stand

#62390
Kick stand

#82157
Kick stand


After Market Kick Stands

ICP Kick Stand

The one kick stand that looks like the factory kick stand if you don't look close is from ICP. Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine. It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kick stand. The ad is from Kaypro Users Group Newsletter Vol 2 No 1.

Optional Kick Stand 2

This is the most common one I see in listings. It usually connected without any modifications.

Optional Kick Stand 3

This Kick Stand requires new holes to be drilled into the case.

Kick Stand from another Machine?

This example shows what I believe to be a kick stand from a later Kaypro that has been added to this machine.
Note the extra holes in front of and to the outside of kickstand mounts.

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