Kick Stand - Revision history

FrankRahman at 06:19, 24 June 2025

2025-06-24T06:19:24Z

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	\| '''#44493''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|		\| '''#44493''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
	[[File:44493.jpg]]		[[File:44493.jpg]]
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	~~\| #37467 <br>kick stand \|\|~~
	~~[[File:37467 bottom.jpg\|400px]]~~
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	\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|		\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|
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	\| '''#45618''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|		\| '''#45618''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
	[[File:45618 back.jpg]]		[[File:45618 back.jpg]]
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			\| #37467 <br>kick stand \|\|
			[[File:37467 bottom.jpg\|400px]]
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	\| #58454 <br>Kick stand \|\|		\| #58454 <br>Kick stand \|\|

FrankRahman: /* Pre-81-003 */

2025-06-24T06:16:43Z

Pre-81-003

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	\| '''#44493''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|		\| '''#44493''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
	[[File:44493.jpg]]		[[File:44493.jpg]]
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			\| #37467 <br>kick stand \|\|
			[[File:37467 bottom.jpg\|400px]]
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	\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|		\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|

FrankRahman: /* Kick Stand from another Machine? */

2024-04-23T04:12:08Z

Kick Stand from another Machine?

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	===Kick Stand from another Machine?===		===Kick Stand from another Machine?===

	This example shows what I believe to be a kick stand from a Kaypro ~~4 or 10~~ that has been added to this machine.<br>		This example shows what I believe to be a kick stand from a later Kaypro that has been added to this machine.<br>
	Note the extra holes in front of and to the outside of kickstand mounts.		Note the extra holes in front of and to the outside of kickstand mounts.

	[[File:39864 moded.jpg]]		[[File:39864 moded.jpg]]

FrankRahman: /* After Market Kick Stands */

2024-04-23T04:10:45Z

After Market Kick Stands

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 ==After Market Kick Stands==
 The one kick stand that looks like the factory kick stand if you don't look close is from ICP.  Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine.  It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kick stand. The ad is from Kaypro Users Group Newsletter Vol 2 No 1.
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 [[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]

FrankRahman: /* Pre-81-003 */

2024-04-12T18:37:22Z

Pre-81-003

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	\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later <br>it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. <br>Not only does it have no kickstand it also <br>doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag <br>next to the serial number.\|\|		\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later <br>it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. <br>Not only does it have no kickstand it also <br>doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag <br>next to the serial number.\|\|
	[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]		[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]
			\|-
	\| #61254 <br>No kick stand <br> See note above \|\|		\| #61254 <br>No kick stand <br> See note above \|\|
	[[File:61254.jpg]]		[[File:61254.jpg]]

FrankRahman: /* Pre-81-003 */

2024-04-12T18:36:41Z

Pre-81-003

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	\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later <br>it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. <br>Not only does it have no kickstand it also <br>doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag <br>next to the serial number.\|\|		\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later <br>it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. <br>Not only does it have no kickstand it also <br>doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag <br>next to the serial number.\|\|
	[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]		[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]
			\| #61254 <br>No kick stand <br> See note above \|\|
			[[File:61254.jpg]]
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	\| '''#34644''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|		\| '''#34644''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
	[[File:34644 bottom.jpg]]		[[File:34644 bottom.jpg]]
			\|-
			\| '''#42891''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
			[[File:42891.jpg]]
			\|-
			\| '''#44493''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
			[[File:44493.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|		\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|

FrankRahman at 02:56, 24 November 2023

2023-11-24T02:56:06Z

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	==Pre-81-003==		==Pre-81-003==

	You will see from the images below that the Pre-81-003 ~~(I sometimes refer to them as 81-001 and 81-002)~~ KII machines also seemed to have an option to add a kick stand ~~though I am not aware of a factory kick stand being installed on them~~.		You will see from the images below that the later Pre-81-003 KII machines also seemed to have at least an option to add a kick stand (#34644 and #56111).

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	==81-003==		==81-003==
			In the 81-003 model there were a few early ones that did not have the holes for the factory kick stand. (#36960)

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FrankRahman: /* After Market Kick Stands */

2023-11-24T02:48:32Z

After Market Kick Stands

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	==After Market Kick Stands==		==After Market Kick Stands==

	The one kick stand that looks like the factory kick stand if you don't look close is from ICP. Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine. It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kick stand.		The one kick stand that looks like the factory kick stand if you don't look close is from ICP. Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine. It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kick stand. The ad is from Kaypro Users Group Newsletter Vol 2 No 1.

	[[File:ICP Kickstand Ad.jpg]]		[[File:ICP Kickstand Ad.jpg]]

	[[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]		[[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]

FrankRahman: /* Pre-81-003 */

2023-11-24T02:45:30Z

Pre-81-003

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	[[File:40448 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]		[[File:40448 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
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	\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. Not only does it have no kickstand it also doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag next to the serial number.\|\|		\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later <br>it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. <br>Not only does it have no kickstand it also <br>doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag <br>next to the serial number.\|\|
	[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]		[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]
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FrankRahman at 02:43, 24 November 2023

2023-11-24T02:43:56Z

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	Somewhere between Serial Numbers 34,000 and 40,000 Kaypro began preparing to add ~~kickstands~~ to their machines. By about 50,000 they were regularly installing the kick stands on the machines.		Somewhere between Serial Numbers 34,000 and 40,000 Kaypro began preparing to add kick stands to their machines. By about 50,000 they were regularly installing the kick stands on the machines.

	A few Pre 81-003 KII machines had factory ~~kickstands~~ (or at least were designed to use them). Most of the 81-003 KII machines would have a factory ~~kickstand~~. All of the K2, K4, K10 and K1 machines had ~~kickstands~~.		A few Pre 81-003 KII machines had factory kick stands (or at least were designed to use them). Most of the 81-003 KII machines would have a factory kick stand. All of the K2, K4, K10 and K1 machines had kick stands.

	(I suspect that Kaypro changed to factory ~~kickstands~~ on the KII about the same time that they released the K4 and K10.)		(I suspect that Kaypro changed to factory kick stands on the KII about the same time that they released the K4 and K10.)

	==Examples==		==Examples==
	Here are three examples of the feet/~~kickstand~~ arrangement:		Here are three examples of the feet/kick stand arrangement:
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	\| No ~~Kickstand~~ <br>Note that the foot is towards <br>the front and outside \|\|		\| No kick stand <br>Note that the foot is towards <br>the front and outside \|\|
	[[File:36960 close.jpg \| thumb]]		[[File:36960 close.jpg \| thumb]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| Transition to a ~~Kickstand~~ <br>Note the there are two screw holes <br>and they are moved back and in \|\|		\| Transition to a kick stand <br>Note the there are two screw holes <br>and they are moved back and in \|\|
	[[File:45618 close.jpg \| thumb]]		[[File:45618 close.jpg \| thumb]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| ~~With~~ Kickstand <br> Uses the same holes as the transition \|\|		\| Kickstand <br> Uses the same holes as the transition \|\|
	[[File:102622 closeup.jpg \| thumb]]		[[File:102622 closeup.jpg \| thumb]]
	\|}		\|}


	Note that the ~~Kick Stand~~, Model Number and Serial Number are all part of the same piece of sheet metal so you can't swap parts and end up with a mixed machine.		Note that the kick stand, Model Number and Serial Number are all part of the same piece of sheet metal so you can't swap parts and end up with a mixed machine.

	==Pre-81-003==		==Pre-81-003==
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	\| #26347 <br>No ~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #26347 <br>No kick stand \|\|
	[[File:26347 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]		[[File:26347 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #34126 <br>No ~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #34126 <br>No kick stand \|\|
	[[File:34126 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]		[[File:34126 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #34571 <br>No ~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #34571 <br>No kick stand \|\|
	[[File:34571 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]		[[File:34571 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #40448 <br>No ~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #40448 <br>No kick stand \|\|
	[[File:40448 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]		[[File:40448 pre003 wo bottom.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #51174 <br>No ~~Kickstand~~ <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. Not only does it have no kickstand it also doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag next to the serial number.\|\|		\| #51174 <br>No kick stand <br> Note this is what I call an out of sequence machine. <br> Even though the serial number is later it looks like it was constructed with an older style case. Not only does it have no kickstand it also doesn't have the Kaypro above the NLS tag next to the serial number.\|\|
	[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]		[[File:51174 pre003 wo.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| '''#34644''' <br>'''Transition to ~~Kick Stand~~''' \|\|		\| '''#34644''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
	[[File:34644 bottom.jpg]]		[[File:34644 bottom.jpg]]
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	\| #56111 <br>~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #56111 <br>kick stand \|\|
	[[File:56111 pre003 w kickstand bottom.jpg]]		[[File:56111 pre003 w kickstand bottom.jpg]]
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	\| #36960 <br>No ~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #36960 <br>No kick stand \|\|
	[[File:36960 back.jpg]]		[[File:36960 back.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| '''#45618''' <br>'''Transition to ~~Kick Stand~~''' \|\|		\| '''#45618''' <br>'''Transition to kick stand''' \|\|
	[[File:45618 back.jpg]]		[[File:45618 back.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #58454 <br>~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #58454 <br>Kick stand \|\|
	[[File:58454 back.jpg]]		[[File:58454 back.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #61850 <br>~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #61850 <br>Kick stand \|\|
	[[File:61850 back.jpg]]		[[File:61850 back.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #62390 <br>~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #62390 <br>Kick stand \|\|
	[[File:62390.jpg]]		[[File:62390.jpg]]
	\|-		\|-
	\| #82157 <br>~~Kickstand~~ \|\|		\| #82157 <br>Kick stand \|\|
	[[File:82157 bottom.png]]		[[File:82157 bottom.png]]
	\|}		\|}


	==After Market ~~Kickstands~~==		==After Market Kick Stands==

	The one ~~kickstand~~ that looks like the factory ~~kickstand~~ if you don't look close is from ICP. Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine. It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory ~~kickstand~~.		The one kick stand that looks like the factory kick stand if you don't look close is from ICP. Here is the advertisment for it and a picture of one on a machine. It is clear from the picture that it is very different from the factory kick stand.

	[[File:ICP Kickstand Ad.jpg]]		[[File:ICP Kickstand Ad.jpg]]

	[[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]		[[File:ICP Kickstand.jpg]]